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Liz Laser
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Posted - 2009.02.09 16:33:00 -
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Edited by: Liz Laser on 09/02/2009 16:34:13
If people pay up, what's to keep Villwrath from making a similar threat to those payees with each of his alts?
Just how many people will you pay 100 million a month to?
Pretty soon every player will be using every one of their characters to demand protection money.
Eventually, miners will have to buy dozens of GTCs and sell the PLEXes for isk just for the privelege of mining. :-) |
Liz Laser
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Posted - 2009.02.09 20:45:00 -
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Edited by: Liz Laser on 09/02/2009 20:49:53
 Originally by: Ugluuk
Originally by: Liz Laser
Edited by: Liz Laser on 09/02/2009 16:34:13
If people pay up, what's to keep Villwrath from making a similar threat to those payees with each of his alts?
Just how many people will you pay 100 million a month to?
Pretty soon every player will be using every one of their characters to demand protection money.
Eventually, miners will have to buy dozens of GTCs and sell the PLEXes for isk just for the privelege of mining. :-)
You pay for blue standings to BYDI and our blue standings..Which means you are safe from attacks from us..
How this works is that we add all we killed to our "buddy" list..Coming with threaths about doing it again wont work if we dont gank the same people over and over again..
So atm we are building up a client list..Then once we got enough customers we start using the locator agents to find you again..
All you got to do it pay once and be safe the next month..
And BYDI keeps it`s word as all our blue pass customers can confirm..
Did anything in your post actually address the points I made?
What keeps Villwrath from making a similar threat with every one of his alts?
What keeps his "crew" from making a similar threat with every one of their alts? They'll have the client list, right?
What keeps the rest of us from making a similar threat with each of our characters?
How many people will a miner pay off for the privilege of mining?
There seems to no limit to the number of people that can make a similar demand on a miner.
If you hand a coin to a beggar on the streets of India you will suddenly find yourself surrounded and being chased by dozens of street urchins.
I suspect paying to mine would yield a similar result.
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Liz Laser
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Posted - 2009.02.09 20:52:00 -
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Edited by: Liz Laser on 09/02/2009 20:55:45
Results and the expectation of results.
Consequences and the expectation of consequences.
If you hand a coin to a beggar on the streets of India you will suddenly find yourself surrounded and being chased by dozens of street urchins.
I suspect paying to mine would yield a similar result.[/
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Liz Laser
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Posted - 2009.02.09 21:04:00 -
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The C & P forum, for this silly prospect. :-)
And all the alts of everyone with access to the client list.
Plus, anyone who sees someone in a hulk can do the same thing, regardless of whether they know if he's paid Villwrath.
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Liz Laser
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Posted - 2009.02.09 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dawts
Paying for protection/immunity is commonplace.
In High Sec? "commonplace"? I'm not saying it doesn't happen, especially "protection" rather than the immunity that the OP was offered. But "commonplace"? Do you really want to assert that for high sec?
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Liz Laser
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Posted - 2009.02.09 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dawts
The reason this can work is because they prove they can do it.
They destroy your hulk and say "we'll do it again if you don't pay us"
1.It isn't an idle threat
2.They have no real reason to keep killing you, they've just brought a client onboard
3.They can move on to new targets to increase their clientele
It's bad business to exploit/kill them after they paid.
It can work until everyone who can draw breath is behaving the same way simply because "it can work". The FOTM masses of Eve can ruin ANYTHING.
Once again, how many people will a miner pay for the privilege of mining?
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Liz Laser
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Posted - 2009.02.09 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Dawts
Originally by: Liz Laser
Originally by: Dawts
The reason this can work is because they prove they can do it.
They destroy your hulk and say "we'll do it again if you don't pay us"
1.It isn't an idle threat
2.They have no real reason to keep killing you, they've just brought a client onboard
3.They can move on to new targets to increase their clientele
It's bad business to exploit/kill them after they paid.
It can work until everyone who can draw breath is behaving the same way simply because "it can work". The FOTM masses of Eve can ruin ANYTHING.
Once again, how many people will a miner pay for the privilege of mining?
How is it FOTM when pirates and 0.0 alliances have been doing it for a loooooong time?.
I'm not saying it is FOTM, yet, but if miners in high sec will pay to mine, then yes it will be FOTM, because EVERYONE will jump on that gravy train. The barrier to entry is practically nil. You can even do it and still stay in the noob corp.
I've considered it in the past but dismissed it because of the same points I've brought up in this thread. Long term it is a fail, because I can't keep everyone else from jumping on the gravy train and driving miners out of the business. (There are no secrets in Eve). Short term, it's only a tad more interesting than camping gates. |
Liz Laser
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Posted - 2009.02.09 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: FOl2TY8
Has anybody in Eve actually tried to run a full on protection racket? I haven't seen anything about it on the forums and it seems like if you had enough active pilots you could probably make a good living on it. As I said, just curious don't have any invested interest in this thread apart from being on a few BYDI killmails.
I'd describe most of Sov space as a protection racket. At least as far as "pets".
The key part in this thread is it's high sec.
The industrialist school (where most miners start out and often stay) for my race has had no buzz about a high sec protection racket. The last time they were all a-twitter was back from jihad before the suicide gank nerf, and I suspect those were just jihadist shills.
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